I trust everything happens for a reason! The Venus conjunct Juno synastry aspect is a frequent aspect in the charts of couples, and so is Juno trine Venus in synastry. lol He also has his Mercury conjuncting my Sun in the 8th house and his Venus conjuncts my Venus as well as his Mars conjuncts my Mars. I believe it caused a lot of confusing both for him n I. SPOOKY!! You need to be clear in areas such as this, find out why you met this person or they you? Oh . hes not so emotional with words but he is in action. Who knows! even when its painful between us this pull makes me want to continue with him so I did not want him to feel my pain yet he could and tried to finish things cos of itbut then we couldnt seem to leave them for more than 3 days anyway, Yep not sure what to call it a relationship, love,, obsession, infatuation, One good and beautiful thing between us which feels like the work of this placement is this soul journeying thing when we are physically together(i feel like when we are close its like we spark something off in each other which creates deep peace, ecstasy and brings us to feel our own souls thru each otherit is very healing)he says i relax him instantly. Im sorry you went through that. I FEEL like he's controlling his emotions for some reason unknown to me. Its like the sayingif you Love someone let them go. The 12th house is mysterious, magical, elusive, highlypsychic, spiritual, and the most interesting thing about it in synastry is that relationships with planets here tend to function mostly on a unconscious level, and even a whole other world entirely. There is a guy with his scorpio stellium (venus, moon, and pluto) in my 12th house, with his venus/pluto conjunct my Asc/pluto. I know I can read him more accurately than anyone else in his life and it scares him sometimes. If they are yours theyll come back and if they dont they never were., I can vouch for this too. In hindsight, I now believe that my 12th Houser is just that. and weirdly 12th house does later show the othher person to live in those shoes. You can be very supportive and will enjoy much of your time alone together away from it all. I was more into him from the very beginning I went after HIM and found out that he really resented it. But I guess with the 12th house influence I may never know. But I always wonder if he feels the same because the 12th house is illusive, So many sites / people say that it is only the house person that will be affected / obsessed. My ex-12th Houser has Venus/Cancer which made it difficult for him to open up, unless it was totally on HIS terms. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. My gemini sun, cancer north node are in my 12th. Problem is that I feel like I know his soul. Same thingsso magnetiche is plutonian, and his pluto trine my moon and sextile my venus and semisextile my sun. I think we are a bit obsessive about each other although he seemed to be feeling it the worst. The same potential is there with composite charts and a lot of 12th house emphasis. Hi, Name Again. Having someones sun in your 12th though, I dont believe it is a nice experience for the planet person, especially a fire sun. This is a very private house, and it holds all of our self conscious fears, most of the time we don't like this house activated especially if this is a person that will use this against us.If the Mars person is selfish and self-serving, he or she may use their knowledge of your bad habits, blind spots and personality weaknesses to manipulate or hurt you. As somebody with a 10th house stellium, including Mars, Moon, & Venus with Aries on the midheavenif somebody fails to openly display their feelings for me, Im gone. What does it mean, and how does it affectthings? When they found out about him talking to me they were furious that he never told me about THEM! Tense aspects can be difficult to overcome. At least I know I'm not the only one who is going through this. And there is a very strong square between his Mars and my own, which creates a lot of stress between us at times, and his Saturn is square my Venus. Im so obsessed with him. Someone I love very deeply has his Venus and Sun and Jupiter and Mercury in my 12th house (actually, his Venus is tightly conjunct my ascendant and as I ignore his time of birth, it can fall also in my 1st house). Blessings come in MANY modes and appearances! Its difficultto tell whats going on here. Its really SOMETHING, and at times its like being on a roller coaster ride. I forgot to say my venus is in his first house and when we met it was like that scene from twilight where Edward walks into the cafeteria in slow motion, the wind was blowing (indoors!) Positively both can help the other overcome their fears, discover hidden talents, or gifts. that is my unrecognized trait of doing and having doubles 2 of this, 2 of that 2 of the same clothes articles, 2 of the same type of lifestyles, apartments . This could be the unconditional kind of love people look for, its about whether or not you can handle it. I then felt like the reason why it felt strange to me seemed to be that I was picking up his symptoms rather than experiencing illness myself (there was also "a fog" kind of feel to it too.) I can confirm that he appears in my dreams often and usually these are precognitive dreams. I know exactly what you mean and boy is it hard to wrap your head around 12th house connections, there are other worldly and they leave a deep impression that is hard to shake off. Often, there is a distinct feeling of mistrust in these scenarios, especially on the part of the planet person. The last one who was a crush had his Leo sun in my 12th. I just want to kiss his cheek and heal his wounds. His Pluto squares my Sun, Moon, Mercury, Saturn and NN. The Venus person gets all silly lovestruck everytime they see their object of desire. Some would be uncomfortable with someone seeping into their dreams or communicating with them in the ethereal realm. Because people that are confident don't usually like to point out other's weakness's or make them feel bad. But I have to work with him and Im afraid he can realize and maybe use this against me. The 12th house also has deep connections with dreaming, rest, and introspection. NO THANKS!!! However,from reading the comments here, it seems that the planet person can be just as affected as the house person. It means he has an inner conflict going on that is psychological in nature. It's true that when someone touches our soul in deep connection, they could teach us a lesson. Leave no traces where you can be found, as these BAD 12th-Housers seem to be emotional vampires, and thus really get off on feeding off of YOU, your fears and trepidation. It doesn't necessarily have to do with verbal flattery but the presentation, image or interaction boosts the House. Ouch!We do not see clearly, we imagine things differently than they are, we trust, we assume, we are not working with facts but what we want to believe and feelings. He was everything I wanted from a man, he broke all my barriers, and he was what I want to become as we run in more or less same line of business. With your partner's Venus in your 12th house, you are drawn to and captivated by your significant other. JavaScript is disabled. Im going through a bunch of Uranus and Pluto square transits right now and I have a very strong feeling this will not survive. =). I feel like he's not being completely honest with me and himself about how he feels about me. But when I'm around him, it's like a physical stalemate. Trish how did you get over it!?! Their is so much fear between us. Months passed, in where I was writing him letters, telling him about life, telling him about astrology. Designed to help you in the 1 minute it takes to read. It was beautiful and tragic, and the deepest feelings I ever had.. The Ascendant person feels an unconditional love when the other one is around. I could feel something so deep. so the judging becomes like, omg i am judging myself kind of thing lol I beleive this is mostly for those aware and can face truth/accept themselves however greatly flawed and love themselves. On the second day of this happening, he told me that it was weird because he was going through the same thing because of a blood sugar problem where his blood sugar was going too low. He is the same, because even if there is nothing that ties us, in any way, we would still feel like inclined to keep communicating. When we met I felt like I had seen him before..we started talking online then decided to meet. Yes I do think that it's a possibility with his Neptune in your 12th its a very intuitive and psychic connection. But I still hope. It's not of this world, it's spiritual and . Just not every second. He does tell me how he feels about me. Especially natal charts and composite charts. I cared abt him so much but I read that the mars person is the antagonist. We also have vertex conjuct Asc. There are other harsh aspects between our charts, but overall the more connective and important synastry points overrule the bad. 6 Keeping the Flame Alive. ive seen it many times in others too. I even took a sleep aid and could not sleep. What's weird to me is that I can't decide if he's intentionally obscuring himself or if it is unintentional based on the nature of his personality. I wouldnt say its a bad experience but Id personally avoid 12th house placements. In a synastry chart, this is indicative of strong affection and attraction. Specific to you, the overlay situation might have some play here, but my guess is that theres more to this story. From all levels! You will not regret it. Feeling an intense attraction but beyond the physical, even that he was the personification for what I find attractive in the opposite sex. so we didnt mentioned it untill the last month, i couldnt stand it anymore, and i wanted clairity, if he ever had felt for me. If he truely loves you, he will sooner or later find his way back to you. Are you afraid to admit your feelings? Being with your spouse causes you to become more reflective and thoughtful. He brings my daughter candy and buys her ice cream and toys. I leave, but I always come back after a while. When dealing with the spirit world, there are both positive and negative, you know good and bad people and spirits. Gah! What he did to you was cowardly. How would Saturn and Mars play out in 12the in synastry?? I still dream about them and I wonder if I bother them in their dreams toolol, I have had a short lived adventure with a man back in 2013. 12th house synastry is way too murky for me to tangle with. All information I have is the planet can see through the house person like cristal. Is your 12th house tenanted then? Spirtual, Telepathic, Emotionally, Karmic, & Soulful. My Sun, Jupiter, and Mercury are in Gemini and fall in his 12th house. You got bit BAD by the oh-so charismatic, elusive 12th Houser! This is a really good match because it brings together romantic partners with similar ideas about how to approach life. We have our moons in each others first houses which for my cancer stellium does a lot, and he has mars and venus in my 7th house. Not without good reason, psychic and spiritual connections are not all that common, but they show us what exists beyond this physical world. Sent 5 times a week. It was a weird sort of dance, attract/ repulse. Venus in Twelfth House Meaning in Synastry When someone's Venus falls in another person's twelfth house, the planet person acts as a magical entity that activates the house person's imagination and inspires subconscious romantic feelings. i have a guy who i'm so into him , he have his sun, venus, mercury and jupiter in gemini on my 12th house. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. What do you think? I will try to expand on it in greater detail for ya, so check back:). has Sun conjunct Saturn, they natrually have a hard time showing their affections and are very fatherly, 12th house gives you a very spiritual feeling almost like they could be your soulmate, it can be pretty intense ad consuming so if your not very spiritual/aware of yourself or in a good place in life, you might have a hard time feeling this energy or wanting to accept it, its different, its not so much lustful, its just friggin beautiful, you wanna make love to that person and cuddle them, i also have an empty 12th housei could love this energy so much possibly because aqua venuses that land there most of time trine my moon.i feel like if someones planets fall in 12th AND also aspect sun/moon/asc, youll be able to accept and recieve this awesome energy more. Fatherly type things like that. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29420, http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14081. And if they are thus planted in your 12th House, soon the fun begins with you feeling like you were run over by a truck or a fast-moving train. It is strange how much this makes sense: I have my moon in his 12 house and he's got his Neptune in my 12. These are people who souls we touch and theirs ours. Long story short, we both loved each other but it didn't work out for various reasons (I suspect fear and insecurity was the main issue - karmic connection). He never forgot and it almost feels like he is watching me closely on social media. The 12th house person often has difficulty seeing the true nature of the planet and in the extreme this person might actually encourage you to become your own worst enemy. I have something of a business relationship with someone. If neither one has any issues like these then the relationship does not need to take on such a heavy role and can then be about many of the positive aspects of this house. The love for this man has boosted my spiritual development, mainly though an infinite suffering that has no end Our feelings are mutual (my Venus tightly conjunct his Neptune that can mean that I also boost his spiritual development), but for some karmic reasons we cannot be together. I still dont know WHY that occurred . The Venus person gets all silly lovestruck everytime they see their object of desire. We've been seeing each other for over a month now. And for that I am sorry you had to experience that. The following is important: Is this a day chart or a night chart (was the sun up or down when the person was born). Hi, 12th house placements are highly impressionable, they stay with you long after because it's a highly idealized house, be careful you can easily fool yourself. Even PRAY, and pray hard for them to LEAVE you, your sector, your spirit. Are Venus Pluto Contacts In Synastry Problematic? Venus in 12th entirely depends on how well both people can handle Neptune. At last i also found out that he was hidding some parts of his life. but I CAN (4-Sag placement, counting the PF), and thus I DID. His Moon is in my 12th House, and my Venus is in HIS 12th House, thus I felt captured by him. few months later he married her. Lol. Long story short I am finally over MY 12th House love for many of the reasons posted by Morag. I promise you a guy who pursues you is a far, far better fit. It's as if nither of us are ready to let go fully. Just a added general observation for everyone. Lot's of non-verbal communicating. The relationship functions mostly on an unconscious level and there is often much misunderstood or misinterpreted if you arent very clear in your speaking with each other. I either lied to myself or the other was lying to me and it was very difficult and painful to deal with. afterall i suspected him of being phony and saw a fakeness in his eyes.it's not that i have not learned from the previous lesson. Horoscope, dating, astrology, forecast, relationships | 12andus Hi Aida! Now it doesn't happen that often but I can say that as the house person, I'm almost always affected by someone who has Venus in my 12th and if it aspects some of my planets. Disappointments come because we think there is something more even when the person has clearly said there's not. And yes, it plays out just you would think it does. Positive aspects and conjunctions between Venus' show that the two people view love in a very similar way. His Venus is trine my Mars. Unless he is catering to the spiritual side of you, its just not a good place for Mars to be in. Venus conjunct Venus is really good, you will like many of the same things and go about love a similar way. He got married, told me so and yet said that nothing will change. The element of secrecy makes their relationship intense and glamorous. Except when one of us is going through any kind of emotional crisis, then we're pretty physically demonstrative. The moment we talked I felt like I knew him since always, and when started shring some details it was like we had the same growing up, same ambitions (my Sun is in Aries, his in Capricorn). Thats an aspect of a battle between the Mars person & the 12th house person. I didnt want to talk about it untill he would be back home. The 12th house is mysterious, magical, elusive, highly psychic, spiritual, and the most interesting thing about it in synastry is that relationships with planets here tend to function mostly on a unconscious level, and even a whole other world entirely. There is always a lesson and something you will learn and realize that the relationship was fated for some purpose bigger than you origionally thought but not meant to live out in this lifetime. This woman matched all of his criteria (tall, slim & fair). It's often the downfall of many relationships with planets here. I really like the Leo energy. Can he just not see it because of this placement? Venus determines the way you approach relationships, romance, and love. ------------------Air woman. It is spiritual for both people, but sometimes this is why the relationships seem to be so painful if they end. Two+ years in most cases (which makes me want to just go HIDE in my bed under the covers, lol!) Helo There, Last year I was @ a party, with my friends. I have also experienced it as not wanting anyone to know about the relationship or not knowing where you stand. This is the house of Venus and Taurus, so there will also be some jealousy and protectiveness of each other as well. Lol. Sadly to say those attractions/connections do NOT work out well and the relationships are of short duration, for the most part. 12th house is not the greatest for expression i am afraid. Each person shares secrets, and even unconsciously. what a selfish!so far i have involved in guys where my venus lied in their twelve house, it was love but felt like hidden agenda, holly crap! I have noticed this can happen from a distance when we have Neptune 12th house synastry as well. Long time away for me. I guess the best way I can describe it is as if it's partially a dream. Why this could be happen? Cause he had to be free. To the point it's hard to explain to others especially because we're no longer together. I have known that this house related to karmic connection. This would extend to all aspects of life from music to clothes to cars to home furnishings. It is a great placement in synastry, of course depending on other aspects to the degree. What he/she hates in something, i can see that they do the same thing, but they cant see it. People who are willing to fully trust can let themselves loose in the 12th house if you show hesitation than it can make a big difference. We started off some kind of bizar friendship in where I felt like a teacher towards a child, I always pulling, he always coming towards me, and then everytime when he came, he ran away, literally, like he got burned or something. Juno in Twelfth House. I can relate to almost all you've been saying. It's such a surreal feeling. He has trouble verbalizing his feelings but he said he's always been like that. He left few weeks after we met for a travel for six months. Infatuation can't run this deep. Venus in 10th House synastry relationships are formed in the field of business and professional life. it doesn't work or they don't like me? I also have a stellium of 5 planets in my 8th house so I tend to be highly intuitive already. Such as unconditonal love, romance, spirituality, and discovering each others gifts and talents and putting them to use. Oh one more thing: I am a Sun, Venus & Jupiter/Sag native and my Venus is opposite to my 12th House Gemini placement (Uranus-RETRO). Venus in 12th House Synastry Overlay If your Venus is in your partner's 12th house of a synastry overlay, you find yourself deeply moved in strange ways by the house person. But he is confused how I feel this way without needing anything. I couldn't forget him until now. Every synastry aspect Ive read into says that he should have felt more for me and I just dont know if that could be possible. Feel free to elaborate in the comments. Im all thumbs up, though, for those who do not nave the bad effects of a 12th House synastry. In re: to the 12th House attractions, not surprisingly, I always attract Gemini natives mostly Lunar Geminis, or those with Gemini strongly paced in their chart; i.e., Mercury, Venus or Mars. To this some spice adds venus/neptune square.