Hi Thank you, Lo and Welcome There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. It can ruin possible healthy relationships. Do these asteroids have to be conjunct planets or square each other to be dangerous? I am not mad, I am correcting you for instilling fear in people with your claim to truth. The charts tell all. However, this person would have to play it out before he overcame it. Things to look for in synastry: Here we focus on indications of sexual attraction using Astrology as our tool. To me, it always is. We have moons in conjunction in gemini; His venus and mars are in conjunction with my venus in Aquarius. That is why it is so powerful. YOU are the most important person to me. Thank you for your reply. That is the nature of the DSC. If you see Moon oppose or square Pluto, dont play with the person. <3, Hi AmiAnn, do you have any thoughts on this? My Sun and Mercury sandwich this conjunction by four and three degrees. what would the double wammy of sun and pluto look like? Your email address will not be published. It was a relationship based on dates and romance instead of the realities of life. What I wanted to know first was what past lives we had together. orb). Juno aspecting the South Node simply means that the pair was married (in some way) in a past life, or had a longterm marriage-like relationship. Karmic astrology synastry is suddenlyreally interesting when you want to look at your own relationship. the Moons will make for best friends. Im not saying it is impossible for the aspects to play put for people, because a lot of times, you do see it come into play, but really only when ones own natal supports that factor with aspects between actual planets. That is most certainly not the truth. I'm so cappy Knowflake . or you consider just the closer orbit? And posting my charf sounds like fun, I just might . and DW : womans Nessus (13 Gemini) opposite mans Juno ( 12 Sag). There was some sort of karma created, whether the relationship was painful or whether one person abandoned it. Is there any way this could play out in a positive manner or should I watch my back? or is the bad guy Nessus only dangerous when in conjonction with Dejanira ? When she contacts Eros in another, the answer to that question is found in the heart of a powerfully erotic relationship. It creates a synastry energy where all the houses for the whole chart are conjunct to their opposite house in the partner's chart. Yes, it would. This is another clear-cut past life astrology marriage aspect, although it isnt as heavy. As one of the four largest asteroids (along with Vesta, Pallas, and Juno), Ceres is usually analyzed in the birth chart. I'm still not even sure if Eros/Lilith contacts are positive or negative? Also, It doesnt suit me. Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. I only didnt like that its being portrayed as complete truth that will always occur, when its definitely not the case. Asteroids touching asteroids are not as powerful as asteroids touching persona; points on the chart such as the ASC, Moon, Sun, Venus etc. Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. Thank you, amiann. Isis Conjunct the Vertex. Posts: 376From: Western Massachusetts, USRegistered: May 2009. As for MY natal chart I also have mars and Saturn conjunct in Scorpio. . A Sun conjunct Lilith transit highlights the power traits like charisma, magnetism, emotional force and leadership qualities of the Sun. It's been suggested that an understanding of someone's natal Eros gives you the keys to unlock their erotic desires. My jupiter conjunct his sun and venus. The Lilith person brings sexual energy that is literally untamed. I am sorry! Also, I try to be very direct to counter the tendency in many Astrologer not to take a stand. These aspects or connections have a "mean't to be" feel to them, it's a potent place to look at in synastry. In mythology, Eros was the god of sexual love and desire. You truly made my day! However, there is a flip side. To put it plainly, if you have a dominant Nessus, you will be an abuser. There are some other great planet aspects but I am very curious about the ones I listed. Thats why its so weird bc it is a very good longterm relationship. Do we exile her from consciousness or build her a sanctuary for potent, creative expression? 9. I have only had this fantasy with him along with begging him and many many other fantasies. This is my opinion and other people may differ but I call things as I see them, Mandy dear. They made my day, Jeanie. Your Eros Sign Can Explain Your Weird Turn-Ons & Secret Sexual Desires It always starts this way. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. Not sure which one id prefer. I bet that the son was still the abuser though, even if he was the victim, as a child. Moon/Pluto does not have to be dark sexual but if any planetary aspect would be, it would be this. Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. 1. All this is square my Moon. Black Moon Lilith in Synastry - Sasstrology.com Before I leave this subject, I will add my theory. I think most people of the same time period would have it though, so it is not that big of a deal, I think. His nessus is in conjunction with his true node in geminis (in opposition to my uranus and my vesta). Who does whom, so to speak? With any Chiron aspect to the other persons Juno, there was a wound created through marriage in a past life. Pluto conjunct Sun synastry indicates a powerful and transformative relationship. Her theme is power-alluring and irresistible. Your email address will not be published. What does Nessus and Dejanira mean when conjuncting each other? That is what I was saying. Sun person helps Lilith person recognize their subconscious gifts and strengths. Eros - Vesta Lyn Astrology In fact, it is the opposite. I am curious about the dejanira/nessus aspects. Or rather nessus and dejanira support negative aspects since these are asteroids. we also have Eros (his) conjunct my Lilith and Pluto (mine) conjunct his Venus. I don't need anything from you, except to serve you. You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. Eros and Venus in a synastry chart! Relationships that provoke her and Eros, although excruciatingly potent at times, serve as a meeting place for both divine figures. Fortuna Conjunct the Vertex. It is sad! My Dejanira is square his venus (-0a) and conjunct his vertex (0s). My mother has her Nessus conjunct my sun and she has it conjunct her own north node, and my Dejanira is conjunct her moon, and there has NEVER been any type of abuse. Would you liken moon/pluto dynamics to an 8th house moon overlay? That being said, the charts WILL play out, imo and ime. In fact, it is the opposite. I wasnt abused as a child in any way. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. This aspect can bring intense emotions, profound personal growth, and the potential for both positive and negative experiences. You have such a sweet spirit. As I see more pieces, I think my awareness shifts, and I do feel like that makes a difference. That might be how theyre playing out their Nessus-Dejanira, though Im not sure since they also have a lot of mutual Uranus and Pluto contacts to inner planets and both Ascendants. It "wakes up those areas inside of us and causes us to express them sexually, free from the restrictions of reality. Lilith cops the craziest projections - that she could cause miscarriages or tried to wreck men's marriages via 'erotic nightmares' and so on. Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. Black Moon Lilith and Mars in Synastry | ElsaElsa Thanks for your posts Ami. In this video we will discuss the aspects between #Sun and #Eros in a synastry chart in Mix - Eros and Sun in Synastry! If they are conjunct in synastry, a soul mate connection is indicated. The chart never lies, my Friend. Thanks SO much for your kind words. You are very welcome, my Friend. , Not a sag actually, but a virgo with tons of leo in her chart, lol. Lilith Conjunct Venus Synastry - Transformative - Home - Access New Age Sorry, lol. ami, what would nessus trine dejanira in synastry indicate. under what theme of the forum? Or can both apply? . Chiron conjunct sun. What if a man has Dejanira conjunct a womans Sun? I often see this aspect in the charts of couples who have been married for many years. Synastry When a person's natal moon forms a conjunction with someone's Eros, or vice versa, this can be a very sexualbut very intenserelationship. xxx, This may make Nessus and what it means i.e abuse, something that is a deep subject with you and on one which you contemplate. I found your site a short time ago and learned a lot, very descriptive in the analysis, I love it! Your passions are overwhelming, spontaneous, and you develop your attractions without even thinking about it. I didn't eroticize his everyday actions. Her NN on his 7th makes me think its a past life hold. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. You are so welcome, Britt and thanks so much for telling me that you like it. Priapus is likewise called a "minor rustic God" or even "an oversexed gardening God." Nessus is the abusers asteroid. There is precious little practical info out there on asteroids. tell me your story, if you care to, Juice dear. My nessus is separated from my true node by 7 in cncer and in exact opposition to my venus. You can say you did it and you can help the next person who comes along. 10. They may cause each other significant pain and strife, but God help any outsider who dares to point it out. Soul mate & karmic relationship point synastry - MoonsEye Astrology It is not good to have a base level view on what will happen with one isolated aspect. You are welcome to your opinion but I stand on what I wrote. And my pluto trine his sun and venus..xxx, Mars sq Pluto can be violence and/or violent/strong passions. Yes, that is a good way to put it. Youll always want to look at the chart as a whole, read everything as a metaphors, and use your intuition. 1) What would it mean when my nessus conjuncts his nessus? That is why I dont mince words. The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry. I would say that there must be wonderful soul connections that keep down the abuse that would come up without these. I think theres a trine or sextile to other asteroids but nothing major. It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. Love + Soulmate Synastry Observations - Celeste Our composite moon is at 26 Virgo and pluto at 0 libra. Posts: 9778 From: Death Star . Another asteroid that is dark is Dejanira. Ami, Christian Psychic Readings & Astrology Charts for All Faiths. To summarize, I would say that Mars/Pluto could be passionate sex and passionate emotions but no soul.If a chart had no Moon aspects and Mars/Pluto aspects, I would say it would be a fling. Considering the sexual aspect of it all, though, I'm betting the pay off was satisfying at least, haha. There is always a risk with Eros when he falls on a personal planet of point, and meeting Lilith is the greatest of them. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Hi, I dont think you can draw the concrete conclusion you did from these aspects. Lilith-Mars Aspects in Synastry (conjunction, sextile, trine, opposition, square) Lilith-Mars aspects are all about clash of desires. Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse. Eros and Venus in a synastry chart! Conjunction - YouTube I have more compassion for myself, and I feel validated some ~ not to identify more as a victim. If that does not float your boat, feel free not to read. You never want to leave your beloveds side until they put you in the grave. I do Astrology the way that I would want to learn it. The Sun person naturally understands who the Moon person is and vice versa. I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? It would simply be different. Pluto trine Venus, Venus quincunx Pluto These parts of you would flow well i.e may not play out in actual asbuse but would still be issues you both would deal with i.e abuse/victimhood imo I have not seen the trine in actual charts, dean. To gather more about the flavor of the relationship, look to the actual aspect (is it favorable or difficult?) I have Dejanira in Pisces in the 4H. Lilith Synastry Sun and Lilith conjunct in the synastry chart When Sun person's Sun and Lilith person's Lilith combine, each person awakens the deep desire for individuality and creativity in each other. Oops, sorry Amiann. Ascendant opposite ascendant (1st house on the 7th house overlay). This pairing can form a deep emotional bond, especially through physical intimacy. Lilith Conjunct Ascendant Synastry Sun Conjunct Lilith Synastry This connection will burn as hot as the sun! Is it a similar power to the conjunction? Powerful, you say? And Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? My Fortuna conjuncts precisely his Dejanira and Moon. Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. The opposition would be the same but not as locked in or as intense. Is there a positive aspect to this connection? The exception would be the person who overcame it through God. Have you tried? Any other aspect will show a wound through marriage, but the marriage wasnt necessarily involving both parties together. lol. For teaching purposes, one must break things down, so it may seem like it is contrary but it is really not, imo, Sandy. Lilith and Ceres aspects in the Synastry Chart: How do you nurture each Opposition AC / Moon and trigone mars and saturne. And when you really think about it this line of thought deserve to be abused is quite sociopathic in nature. Now, we come to things that could really make the relationship dark. Lilith, both Black Moon and Asteroid 1181, brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger, rejection and rage. If you know, let me know! Thanks :), 2) I just looked for the child asteroid and it is on 28 Capricorn, conjuct with my venus 1 Aquarius. It is real to be neutral. Thank you so much, Love. Thank you =). My Dejanira is in 5 Sag, like his North Node. Venus mars aspects I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. In this case Nessuus is retro in conjunction with the North node. I meant in synastry her saturn conjuct his deja 1 degree, Thats ok. Aww She may ride his case for being a victim like say, get over it etc etc, Pingback: Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. Deep soul love, incredibly painful at times. Eros represents what turns us on. You interpret things based off of your own view. I have BML in my 1st house in Scorpio along with Venus and Saturn All are in conjunction with BML. Thank you Ivs. It seems like sexual abuse is an emotional theme that I am working with in this life. We enter the month of February, with lust, love and passion. Finding Jesus is all that really matters in life. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Sorry for the late reply. I think there are very few people who actually manage to overcome childhood abuse, and not without a long painful journey and negative experiences. My Nessus square his Venus Does it matter if he doesnt have pluto in aspect to my venus (mine is 19 Libra)? I, always, have people want to tell me that Nessus is not always abuse. Most Astrologers dont tell things straight like I do. It is typical cat and mouse game with taboo twists. I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage. Lovely and very filled with passion! As such, I would be careful and watchful. The issue is that me disagreeing with you being fatalistic (because what you say is not what always happens, not even 60% of the time because I have nessus/dejanira aspects with most people that are close to me, and I have never been abused or attacked in any of those relationships) does not mean that Im not accepting the truth. I would put Moon/Pluto first in terms of super connection and passion and Venus/Pluto second. I have very wide-orbed Eros-Lilith contacts (not conjunctions) in my two last relationships (they are Eros, I'm Lilith), but both relationships were so 8th house-oriented and Plutonian that it's hard to tell where Lilith comes in. I am not surprised this happened to you. Black Moon Lilith Aspects In Synastry | Tea & Rosemary The chart shows the TRUTH. And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? Then my Nessus is 29 Cancer in almost exact opposition with the child asteroid at 28 Cap. Since both Eros and Lilith are isolated energies buried deep in the unconcious, the erotic transformation which takes place upon their meeting is deep with raw and intuitive spiritual potency. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. If other aspects and planets in the chart point to marriage, then it was probably a romantic, attractive marriage where the couple did not see each other all day, did not share a bedroom, had a large household staff, lived apart, etc. for example a 1.46.. or 2? Please, keep me posted though but, yes, please, be careful, Love! MoonsEye Astrology Hi! Can you do Eros conjunct Venus in synastry Not all people with a prominent Dejanira are victims I disagree.I think they will be until they can truly overcome it with God. Lilith conjunct Ascendant The conjunction is excact. I dont mean to, but I think I find issues/hurts of my friends and partners and end up trying to mother them if thats what you meant. Thank you for your comment. Eros in synastry Tell me, what is it like? I would need to see more, Jenn! I could not really answer this question without seeing the whole chart. People tell me the same thing they tell me with Nessus. His dejanira is conjunct with my sun. His touch is all at once sexual, creative and spiritual. Things DO offset things but one must look at everything to see a final answer which is my goal when doing charts.I am not trying to sell myself here, just trying to show that your question is too deep for a quick answer, my Friend. I hope I can do this when I tell you about my own life. The Nessus is usually the abuser but in this case, it was the son. What about my nessus conjunct his descendant? My sun and deja are on his nn. Aww Fluffy Your articles hit me hard again:-). Yet despite this fearsome reputation she was often dismissed as " a minor Babylonian wind deity " or similar. And how did you arrive at the conclusion that Nessus and Dejanira are indicative of abuse? Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. No point living in fear for aspects that may not play out. And what about Sun and Pluto contacts in synastry? I think her NN is right on his 7th house axis for one. Do you have their synastry you could post on my Forum? I have no vested interest in any asteroid or any placement being any way other than my being able to help people. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? I was sexually abused in my home by a family member. My main point is reflection. Cosmic Farts on Tumblr Love, Children create their future adult personalities by learning from the adults around them and their interactions, so it makes sense, sadly. Lets see. That`s very interesting information. Who would bring who abuse? Will be keeping my wits about me. I was wondering how much weight can have the orbit in a synastry.. for example, I have with a guy a Venus trine Pluto, but 5.46 orbit.. does it counts? Romantic Conjunctions in the 12th House If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. Eros: Essential Sexual Contact or Icing on the Cake? Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. When Eros touches the Sun, the energy of both the Sun and Eros awaken between . I am not asking you to do mine either. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. Come and post the charts. These are too many questions for text. Double whammy of Mars-Uranus in our synastry chart. Is this you? As a result, this aspect can feel like opening a can of worms that literally fly, not crawl, out of the unconscious. My venus is conjunct someone's eros right now. The Moon person feels comforted by the Sun person's energy and the Sun person feels like they can be vulnerable with the Moon person. my mars is there too though, trining his Scorpio pluto 0.25 we have physical heat but plenty of fighting. Even with a trine this 8th house effect enhances both the good and the bad ? Eros contacts in synastry have been touted as creating attraction that cannot be denied. its more like the astrology helps me to fill in the pictures. They play out to have a certain pattern to the relationship. I use the term female, but it would be the same for either sex. I know my life, and what manifests in it. It doesnt always make for the easiest of relationships, because both people come into the marriage with the weights of the past life issues, but it definitely has staying power. I have my dejanira conjuct by one degree with my AC line. We also had a Juno Vertex conjunction. There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. There are no planets conjunct or square either Nessue or Dejanira in either chart, the only conjunction is her Dejanira to his Nessus. 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. About YOU being the Nessus with your b/f. She is raw sexuality which will not be dark if it touches Venus imo and Welcome , what if I have my Lilith conjunct his juno and his venus. It is opinion, not truth. When you say one which you contemplate, do you mean that the person is aware of the abuse tendency and tries to deal with it? My Pluto opposite his Moon. I dont really understand the aspect you are asking about. How does that play out? I cant really relate to Nessus at all, though I sometimes think I can feel BML itching under my skin. As long as we kept connecting the way we had been sexually, I was willing to "fight" for what I thought we had and felt I could withstand anything. To me, you may really struggle with falling into the victim role and would have to keep pulling yourself up over and over until you get real traction which could take some time, oh im sorry. I read some things. I have not seen it fail in all of my chart work. what do you think about a double-wammy moon sextile pluto and pluto square moon in sinastry? As such, Nessus seems out to be the abuser and Deja the victim. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. The chart is complex and one has to look at the entire chart to draw very global conclusions. I know our feelings are mutually intense but certainly we experience our relationship from different perspectives. I dont believe in past lives, Lo. the reason this is the case is that Mars is sexual drive( all drives actually). I dont want people to get the wrong idea and then get scared over a small aspect.